I retired from the United States Navy over twenty six years ago. I served
for twenty two years, mostly sea duty and about 50/50 surface and submarine.
My service included both enlisted and officer experience. For more than
a decade I've been active in Veteran Organizations and Navy Reunion Associations.
That said as background for some observations and judgments
made relative to the relationship and/or camaraderie of veterans within
different social/fraternal situations. I should also mention that I completed
a normal four year under graduate college program early in my post service
time as part of my transition from career military to civilian/veteran
status. Therefore opinions stated henceforth are based somewhat on the
above background conditioning. My qualifying eligibility for membership
in VetOrgs that I was most involved with was Korean service. My early experience
with the VFW and the American Legion were quite different. I'm convinced
that the local membership cadre were controlling factors. The VFW members
were mostly retired enlisted Army. Many had served from WW II through Vietnam.
Most were older than me. I was a retired Submarine Naval Officer. Talk
about a black sheep in the pen, I was it! I attended the business
meetings and got involved with the Post's activities. I still wasn't readily
accepted. I've since changed to a younger VFW Post with some active
duty Air Force members. Totally different ball game! Why bother? Aside
from the fraternal benefits, there is strength in numbers (or so
we hope) to try to preserve some of our earned entitlements. More
on this later. The American Legion experience was vastly different from
the VFW (same town with a few dual members). The American Legion membership
included more of the officer corps and many vets with four or less
years of service but a full civilian career behind them and many younger
still working with children in school. I was readily accepted and got too
involved, too quickly. If you let them, they'll work a VOLUNTEER
to death and take all donations until the pot is dry! A real learning experience.
A fact of life: There are politics in each and every
organization.
Also I've been involved with several Ship Reunion Associations.
Most of these were initially formed by crew members that were WW II plank
owners. It was their Association. That attitude is quickly changed
or changing to recognize the crews from the Korean and Vietnam eras and
the natural aging of the Association's plank owners. Being a Korean
vet, I am in the middle group and have thoroughly enjoyed the periodic
reunions that I've been able to attend. Little difference as to type of
vessel: DD, CA, CV or CVA. With a CVA group there was one unpleasant experience
where the WW II Air Group vets were in charge. A definite bias was
felt. This was the only one notable exception though. The first
reunion always seemed to be the best one. Then your expectations are high
for the follow on gatherings. You attend and find that friends made before
aren't there for any of several reasons (health, finances or death). The
gathering of around 700 submarine veterans in Mobile in August of 1997
was as good as they get! The HOST TEAM accomplished their task in a most
outstanding manner! I'll refrain from comment on the USSVI
business activities there. The fraternal/social aspects of the Mobile experience
were fantastic! I met several friends from my FBM days. It was great to
have known Mike Grimm. June and I are looking forward to Hagerstown in
September even though it immediately follows our national VFW & MOC
Conventions that we are hosting in San Antonio. We are optimistic that
after our Spring plumbing upkeep that we'll be up to the autumn activities.
28APR98
I'll defer the ENTITLEMENTS topic for another time.
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